Straight men have inherent sexual value for male body. But Straight males have only penetrative value for the female body.

Females and Gays too only have penetrative value for men's bodies (with men being the penetrators). Men's bodies don't have intrinsic value for women and homosexuals.

Why do straight males seem so selfish/ mean?

That's the stereotype of straight males, and they're true to a large extent.

But why is it so? Is there a connection between masculinity and selfishness/ meanness? Is masculinity after all a negative, destructive quality?

Definitely not. It has been made into one by the social brand of (fake) masculinity represented by social roles of men.

Natural masculinity has both positive and negative aspects, and it can be just as selfish or mean as femininity but just as selfess and caring too. That is why in the olden days, when social manhood closely reflected natural manhood, masculine, straight males were full of character, propriety, selfless, etc.

However, the social roles of manhood, especially those prevalent in the West --- the heterosexual ones, force men to be selfish and mean towards their own inner-self and towards others as well, in order to compete in the intense anti-man race for (social) manhood. By encouraging, rather forcing men to participate in this race, the FOH train them to be selfish in order to survive. The more selfish you are, the farther you will go in the race. And those who appear at the top, the stereotypes of which straight males are made of, are always the one which are the most selfish -- this selfishness is both inherent -- and a learned thing. While the selfless, honest, courageous, real men, don't make it to the top -- because that means that you will also be honest to yourself -- and then you won't be really all that heterosexual.

Why do straight men seem to so hate male to male desire

It's because, in western heterosexualized societies, desiring another man has been associated with a group of freaks and effeminate male who feel different from normal men (through the concept of sexual orientation), that this desire has become extremely stigmatized.

STRAIGHT MEANS NORMAL, NOT HETEROSEXUAL

STRAIGHT means 'normal' in any context... and straight is used not only in the case of 'sexual identity' but in many different contexts, and everywhere its meaning is 'normal. 

Now its just so that the Western society and Gays specifically have defined the 'normal', 'regular' guy as 'heterosexual'. Does this mean that they are really heterosexual, at least exclusively heterosexual -- all or even a majority of them? Considering, that there is such immense pressure on 'normal', 'regular' guys to be heterosexual and to prove a repulsion towards male eroticism or intimacy with men, how can you be sure that the straight heterosexuality is not a mask put on to keep their 'normal', 'regular' status. In a world, where sex with women means social power, status and manhood, and a place in men's spaces, and a man is under immense pressure to prove his heterosexuality in order to be counted as 'normal' and 'regular', is it too 'wierd' to suspect that a lot of this heterosexuality may be fake? Especially, when there are strong evidences from non-Western societies -- and now, even from the Western world. 

You have to understand that the non-gays have such immense need to define themselves in a manner away from teh gays --- because of the ancient hatred of queers --- that they would give up anything that the society associates with the queers. 

Therefore, when the queers started to be defined as 'men who like men', the (straight) men gave up sexual desire for men altogether, at least, publicly. Earlier, when queer was defined as effeminate males who had receptive anal/ oral sex, Men had given up 'passive' sex altogether, at least publicly and would disown any interest in being penetrated. But they had no shame or qualms in accepting to penetrate a man or a queer.

Why do men hate femininity?

The only reason that men hate male femininity and queers is that it is held out as a threat to them for rebelling against social, fake manhood, that force men to behave in unmanly ways in order to be counted as men.

Men hate third gender because they see them as punishment.

And masculine men who accept their sexuality for men have a special reason to hate queers in the heterosexualized world. And it is the fact that they are forced to share the same identity as queers, and their own gender (man, masculine male) is negated. And that they are broken from the group that they really belong to (straight).

Otherwise, male femininity is very natural, and there's nothing in there to hate as such. In fact in ancient societies, the third gender was really respected and liked by all and sundry.

Who is 'gay' for the straight men

Straight men are pretty aware about the fact that all men have strong sexual feelings towards other men... and no matter what the definitions formally, say, they are very clear in their minds about who is 'gay' and who is not. It is NOT being attracted to men that makes you gay... rather it is the following two things which does:

1) An acknowledgement of this sexual need for men.

2) A sexual disinterest in women/ or (in traditional societies) an 'inability' (or what is considered to be an inability) to have vaginal sex with women.

The real difference between Gay and Straight is 'gender' and not 'sexuality'

The definition of Gay actually consists of two parts:

One is the formal stated part and the other is the hidden unacknowledged part. Ironically, its the formal visible part of the difference that is wrong/ false/ fake. Only the unacknowledged difference is real.

The formal part is about sexuality, and it is a purely social difference with no natural or biological basis. Thus the only difference between the two males of masculine gender, one of whom is forced with the 'gay' identity and the other 'straight', is that of accepting their sexual need for men -- which is a social act... in terms of nature, both have same-sex needs.

Sexuality wise, you choose to be gay or straight. However, its the unacknoweldged difference between gay and straight which is not only a historical difference, but also a biological difference, which has been pushed behind the scenes under the Western conspiracy against men.

This unacknowledged difference is that of gender, i.e., masculine and feminine gender. This difference is not acknowledged, but this is the only difference that really works in real life (in that people actually, subconsciously take their decisions about whether they choose to be 'straight' or 'gay' based on their gender). Genderwise, you don't choose to be 'gay' or 'straight', its what you're born with.

Unless masculine male love for men is liberated from the 'gay' clutches, straight men cannot claim their own sexuality. And that is why the Western Forces of heterosxualization, under their conspiracy are hell bent on propagating same-sex needs as 'feminine' and 'unmanly'.

Globalized definitions of Straight and Gay:

The concept of 'sexual orientation' invented in the modern West requires a highly artificial society to make any sense. First it requires intense heterosexualizing of men's spaces and of men, and then generating intense fear amongst men's minds for any kind of man to man intimacy in the men's (straight) spaces, so that they can be banished from men's spaces into third sex 'gay' space.

The non-western societies, are still largely non-industrialized and thus do not have enough resources to bring about such artificial and unnatural reorganisation of their society. Therefore, when, under the process of globalization, the concepts of 'straight' and 'gay' are applied in the non-heterosexualized world, a new definition of these terms emerges -- which is a combination of the West and the Eastern viewpoints.

The following are the definitions that are finally emerging out of this process:

STRAIGHTS: Straights are members of men's spaces. The membership of these spaces, or in other words, the criteria for social manhood is different in heterosexualized and traditional societies.

In traditional societies 'straight' means any masculine gendered male. In terms of sexual preference he is supposed to be the penetrator, and may penetrate man, woman or gay.

In hetrosexualized societies, the membership to straight spaces are reserved only for man's sexual interest in women (whether real or not).

GAYS: Gays are members of the Third gender spaces. The membership of Gay spaces are also different in heterosexualized and traditional societies.

In traditional societies, 'gay' means effeminate males who have receptive anal sex with men.

In heterosexualized societies 'gay' is defined to include all kinds of non-woman sexual interest in men, including both a man's sexual interest in men and a queer's sexual interest in men.

Types of Straight men

Straight Men in heterosexualized spaces consist of the following:

All of the following have significant to exclusive sexual attraction for men, although most will never ever acknowledge it.

1. Straight acting heterosexuals: These are people who fit in the most snuggly in the heterosexualized spaces, because they are naturally capabale of an emotional and social bond with women and they relish it. They have a significant femininity inside them, which is often disguised by extreme social manhood granted to them under the straight identity. They also often have a strong desire to cross-dress or even transexual tendencies. Their visible feminine acts are often ignored by the enormous artificial 'masculine' image that comes with the 'heterosexual' tag in heterosexualized societies.

They are actually meterosexual males, that is they have a strong femininity, but also have enough masculinity to have a masculine ego. While they have a strong sexual desire for men, their emotional desire is partly or completely towards women. The more their emotional/ social bonding desire is towards women, the more queer they are.

Some of them are however, made 'heterosexual' through the various mechanisms of heterosexualization of men.

2. Real straights: These are males who are masculine and the real constituent of the men's spaces or the real 'straights'. Their primary characteristics include:

- they are predominantly masculine gendered.
- they have no natural desire for emotional or social bonding with women, in fact, by nature, they are quite averse to it.

Real straights can be further divided into two parts:

- Type 1: Those who have a purely physical desire for women (largely vaginal intercourse), ranging from strong to moderate. However, this desire is not constant but intermittant/ periodical, and is largely non-discriminatory, i.e. they usually just need a release and are not very choosy about who they take as a partner. However, if they have freedom, they are very choosy about who they choose as a male partner. Under natural circumstances, (which is altered by the heterosexualization of men and society) they tend to be promiscuous vis a vis women, but committed and monogamous vis a vis a man partner.

- Type II: Core Group: Those who, as far as their real nature is concerned, have minimal to no physical desire for women. However, they have to pretend such a desire to stay in the straight group in a heterosexualized society, and are one of the most disadvantaged groups.

The machoest straight men come from this group. This group is also the core of the straight space or the men's spaces. They hold the men's spaces together, and are the real strength or power of men's spaces and of men. The rest of their qualities are similar to those of Type I mentioned above.

Straight men only love men as much as the society will give them space within the straight space!

Straight men have a strong need to love other men, but they will only do as much as is the social space available for them to do it (they just won't go to the third gender gay space to do it).

And, surprisingly, they even seem to do the impossible by trying to love men in the negative space available in heterosexual societies, where straight is defined as 'heterosexual'. There they love men by pretending with their lovers that they don't have any sexual feelings even for each other, and by hiding and camouflaging their love for each other and never talking about it... but nevertheless doing a lot of those emotional things that two people intensely in love do, but doing it silently, communicating through silence -- their interest, their hurts, and all those big and small things. They don't speak out even when the relationship they so intensely want is about to break and a small word from them can save it. They'd rather just watch in silence than speak out. They just won't cross the limits set up by the society -- in this case the 'heterosexual' society.

While, all the time their heart beats for their male lover, they keep talking only about women and do all kinds of pretenses to prove their heterosexuality, even when they may or may not have any interest in women.

Masculine males who like men exclusively are the backbone of straight space

There are only three kinds of humans: Men, women and third gender. And they all have their respective social spaces.

The men's spaces are very important to men. They are by far the most important thing for them, even more important than their male bonds. And what holds these men's spaces together? Its the emotional/social/sexual need of men for other men -- and that's the biological as well as spiritual significance of man's romantic/emotional/sexual need for men, which a civilisation obssessed with the greed for reproduction will never understand.

By debarring men's love for men from men's spaces, which in the Western societies are forcibly converted into mixed sex spaces (in the name of gender equality), the Western, heterosexualised societies have taken the essence of men's spaces out of them, and have thus weakened these spaces as well as weakened the men themselves, tremendously.

And, it were especially the macho men who were exclusively into loving another man, (like the mighty Hanuman of Indian mythology) who are are the backbone of men's spaces, who hold it together.

If these men cannot be a part of the men's spaces, then who else can be. Who else is more worthy of being in these spaces. Who else is more worthy of manhood. The men's spaces and the masculine man who exclusively loves another man are made for each other.

But, if the society debars these men from men's spaces, (men's spaces are called 'straight' spaces in the Western world, and defined as 'heterosexual'), they make life meaningless for these men, when they are meant to be the power of men and of men's spaces/ straight spaces. The men become weak and vulnerable second class citizens without the power of these men. They become like bonobo monkeys, forever dependant upon women for all their needs, whether they are emotional, physical, sexual or social needs or the need for social power/ status/ manhood. Like in the bonobos, the male becomes the second class citizen, who waits on the female, and whose status in the society is determined by the status of the woman whom the bonobo ape is related to.

Because, these men who are the backbone of men's spaces, and they and men's spaces are made for each other -- these men just can't imagine leaving the straight space for the third gender, half-man/ half-woman space redefined by the Forces of Heterosexualisation as 'homosexual' space. And because straight is defined now as 'heterosexual', these men have to kill their need for another man, and pretend to like women and live as the epitome of masculine heterosexuals.

Ironically, male heterosexuality is essentially queer in nature, and its the masculine man whose heart beats for another man, but who pretends to like women all his life, who makes heterosexuality seem masculine and straight.

Do you wonder why sex with women has been a criteria for granting manhood... ?

Because to most men, it sucks...

For most straight men, sex with women is a highly painful test, that they nevertheless have to go through, as a proof of their manhood. Something from which they have no escape. And they spend most of their youth trying to prepare themselves for the eventuality.

They do so much, date women to feel comfortable with them, eventually, watch loads and loads of girl porn to develop an interest eventually, masturbate over girl's pics, look at girls all the time, when they couldn't care less -- in fact making it their second nature to do so, rub their crotches with willing girls in crowded buses to feel arousal through girls in a non-threatening environment (as the girl cannot call them 'namard' or 'gay' for not getting an erection), chat with lots of different girls on internet, again to remove their emotional and social discomfort and thousands of such other maneuvres to help them prepare for the day, when one day they will

It is not very different from the ones that they had to go through several thousands years ago, when they had to go through excruciating painful tests like being engraved with knives all over their bodies. Only this is not a one time test, and men have to pretend that all the time that they just love it.

I see that happening all around me, and the more I learn about men, and their double lives, the more apparent this struggle of theirs becomes.

The Western society wants complete eradication of man to man bonding

The modern Western society has waged a war against man to man sexuality like its a virus that needs to be completley eradicated from the men's population. The traditional society was content with suppressing this 'virus' so that it does not come in the way of marriage and reproduction, and did not need to be totally eradicated.

For this complete eradication of this 'virus' the Western society has created the strategy of quarantining man to man sexual need in the third sex 'homosexual' space, which has been specially created by the institution of science for this purpose.

However, in reality, its the Heterosexualisation which is really a disease. And the concept of sexual orientation, which needs to be fought by men.

But, how will they fight, as long as they are busy serving their oppressors for greed of the social powers granted by them.

Why not fight against this disease and snatch their powers to grant social manhood and power to us. Why not snatch our control of men's spaces from those Forces of Heterosexualisation? And be the masters of our own manhood and spaces.

Wrongly portraying man's sexual need for men as 'diffferent' and 'alternative'

They started portraying man's sexual need for men, and men who were seen to have this need as different.
How they achieved it was, they showed third sex that loved men as 'men who loved men'. That is, by deliberately ignoring the gender differences between the third sex and men (when it came to sexual need between men), they confused their (feminine male's) sexual interest and their femininity in the minds of the world.
Everything about the third sex is different from men, even when they have the outer body and sexual organs of a male.
The way they walk, talk conduct themselves, relate with each other and with the world -- it's all different from men. So, naturally, their sexual interest in men would be different from men too. But, what the Forces of Heterosexualisation suppressed with equal force was the fact that the third sex was also majorly into sexual interest in women, and that their sexual interest in women was different in essence from that of men too. It doesn't make 'men who like women' different from normal men.
Right now, the Westernisd forces of Heterosexualisation are busy doing the same manipulation in India. I was just now watching the movie 'partner' on TV, where a 'gay' (a feminine, limp wristed male) was singing "Aadmi hoon aadmi se pyaar karta hoon" (an old Hindi song that goes I'm a man and I love a man). However, this was never seen earlier to be applying to the third sex. It talk about a general love of mankind, in any case. But what I felt like asking the 'gay', Are you really a man? I mean Its only the westernised gays that consider them a 'man', because they think man is the same as male. And they accomodate their gender difference in their 'gay' identity, since the society confuses their sexual need for men as emanating from their femininity.The desi (vernacular, local) 'gays' have no qualms about calling themselves third sex, and they don't want to be called a man. Neither are they considered men.

Gays will fight the idea that straight men too have a sexual need for men

IT'S SO TYPICAL that gays will reject the idea that straight men can have any sexual inclinations for men at all, because, if they accept that, their very identity will lose its ground.

And they badly need that identity, because it gives them powers at the cost of straight men. But the fact is, the entire gay-straight divide is artificial and created by the Western society.

If men are not pressurised most will not even notice girls

One of the several cliches made popular in men's spaces include "(for girls) if we don't look at you, your make-up and beautifying yourself will be in vain."
The fact is that, if there's no social pressure on men, most men would normally won't care to look at women.

To have a girlfriend before marriage is really stupid.

For men to keep girlfriends before marriage is so stupid (of course, that they do it under pressures, most of them, is another matter).

When they have to get bound with a woman for all his life, ruining his freedom, then why give up your freedom earlier? Youth is the time to enjoy your freedom and do your thing, not to take up the responsibility of a girl.

And, of course, it is an oppression of straight men that they are forced by the society to do this. When you're a member of a community or social order, you have to do the needful -- that is the things that the community requires for membership. And if men have to be in the straight space (and not be thrown into the gay space) they too must do the needful and constantly prove their sexual interest in girls, whioh is only possible by keeping a girl with you all the time.

Men put masks of heterosexuality not so much for social power but for survival as men

While watching the serial "Man vs Wild", where the 'hero' who was trying to survive in the jungle, and was trying to escape from something -- I don't know what, i came late -- it was either predators or mafia, but they were all around and they were out to get him, and the only way he could survive was by camouflaging himself. He did it by putting on masks and stuff that made him mix with the environment -- rubbing mud on himself, especially everything that shone or stood out, and putting plants on himself.

I could immediately relate it with how men have been forced to live all these centuries and especially in the modern heterosexual society. It's so damn hostile to the real man in them, that it will kill them the moment it sees it. So they survive by putting on masks -- masks of heterosexuality. They do a thousand things, just so to mix with the environment, so that the oppressive forces don't find them, isolate them and then banish them from the society and take away their very identity from them.

And, then suddenly I recalled how Sameer was dating women, even when our relationship was just getting strong -- and I left him thinking he had decieved me, that social power meant more to him. But, he wasn't doing it for social power. He was doing it only because he needed it to survive. He just doesn't have the skills to protect himself, if they catch him. All those scary and hostile heterosexual masks that he wore was to hide himself -- a survival skill, just like that 'hero' in the serial 'Man vs. Wild'. And then the oppression of men became even more stark and obvious. Because this is pretty much what most other straight men do. And it also gave me an idea. If I want men to feel safe to come to our movement, then I must camouflage my ownself, our movement and give them a space where they can safely come without jeopardising their identity and existence. At least in the beginning.

Naturally heterosexual males are more at liberty to indulge in male eroticism

Men are not supposed to notice other men's body or clothes and stuff, especially as to how good it looks at them. But, I'm not surprised that its the only really heterosexual guy amongst us in my office, who keeps noticing my and other people's clothes.

And why, he 's the only one who had the courage to put sexy men's pictures on his computer... and since sometime after meeting me (because I've brought out his sexual need for men), he only puts pictures of men on his computer desktop -- sexy and handsome men. First he did it gingerly, and now he has become extremely confident of it).