An 'internet' incredulous 'gay' friend couldn't believe that a man who shows repulsion towards the idea of sexual/ romantic intimacy with men can actually have a need for intimacy with men, deep inside him -- a need that has been mutilated by social conditioning.

Another 'gay' person, who has somewhat progressed towards 'straight' after having a series of relationships with straight guys told me during 'counselling' that his new straight lover bit him bitterly in contempt as he was brushing his hands on his cheeks, lovingly. Of course, men when they get into relationships with a man, even when on one hand they show intense desire, emotions and sexual attraction, (which is nevertheless veiled and never directly acknowledged), on the other hand, they start off with being 'repulsed' by any explicitly intimate action -- such as brushing hands on one's cheeks. This repulsion takes sometime, actually, a lot of time and patience to go away, allowing the real feelings of the man -- of his need to give and take affection to be able to express itself freely. And it is also hard on the ego of the person who has to take the brunt of it.

The point is, the repulsion is not an evidence of men's lack of need of sexual/ romantic for men. This is a product of social conditioning and actually hides a deep such need. In fact, as long as men are under the influence of this socially generated repulsion men behave absolutely violently when someone makes a sexual advance towards them -- although, such cases almost always occur only when the other person is either 'feminine' or 'not desirable' or too 'old,' so the repulsion is towards the undesirability of the male, not the fact that one is a male. But, that is how men portray this repulsion.

So, you have men who are in intense relationships with either another man or a gay, and yet they hit violently someone who makes advances towards them -- and then claim that this is because they are 'repulsed' by man on man action.